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Pull Ups Overhand Grip

The overhand grip pull up is the standard wide grip pronated pull up. The palms face forward, the grip sits wider than shoulder width and the lats do most of the work. For most lifters it is the hardest of the three main pull up variants because the biceps leverage is reduced compared to chin ups and the upper back has to do more lifting. It is also the most direct vertical pulling exercise for lat width.

Updated:
May 2026
Written by:
Dominic Walton, MD
Reading time:
7 min
How to perform

Setting up and pulling the body cleanly

The overhand pull up is unforgiving compared to chin ups or neutral grip pull ups. Bodyweight is fixed, the grip is wider and the lats have to do more of the work. What you can control is the setup and the rep quality. Walk through each phase before pushing for reps.

1. Grip and hang

Grip the bar with palms facing forward (pronated) at approximately 1.5 times shoulder width. Some lifters prefer slightly wider, some slightly narrower. Avoid grips beyond 2 times shoulder width because the shoulder position becomes vulnerable. Hang fully extended with arms straight. Set the lats by pulling the shoulders down and back before the rep begins.

2. The pull

Drive the elbows down and slightly back. The chest leads the way up toward the bar. A true overhand pull up finishes with the upper chest at the bar, not the chin. Stopping at chin level cuts off the most productive part of the range. The elbows should track down and slightly out from the torso.

3. The peak contraction

Pause for one second at the top of the rep. The shoulder blades are pulled down and back. The chest is high. The arms are fully bent. This is the position where the lats are shortest and the upper back is most loaded. The overhand grip emphasises the upper lat and rear delt at this position more than chin ups do.

4. The descent

Lower under control over two to three seconds. The arms straighten completely at the bottom. Eccentric loading drives a large fraction of hypertrophy on pull ups (Schoenfeld 2010), so a fast drop wastes the most productive half of the rep. Most overhand pull up gains come from training the eccentric properly.

5. The dead hang reset

At the bottom of every rep return to a fully extended dead hang for a brief moment before pulling again. This pause prevents momentum from carrying you into the next rep and ensures every rep starts from the same range. Reset the active hang before every rep.

Muscles worked

What the overhand pull up trains

The overhand pull up loads multiple muscle groups heavily because it is a closed chain compound exercise moving bodyweight against gravity. The pronated grip and wider position changes which muscles do the most work compared to chin ups or neutral grip pull ups.

Latissimus dorsi (upper portion)

Primary mover. The wide pronated grip biases the upper lats more than chin ups or neutral grip pull ups. The upper lat fibres handle shoulder extension from an abducted arm position, which is exactly the overhand pull up movement pattern. For lifters chasing lat width this is the most direct exercise.

Middle trapezius and rhomboids

These work hard on every rep because the wider grip emphasises scapular retraction. The mid back is more involved in overhand pull ups than in chin ups. EMG comparisons show overhand pull ups produce higher mid trap and rhomboid activation than supinated chin ups.

Posterior deltoid and teres major

These assist with shoulder extension. The contribution is meaningful but secondary to the lat. The wider grip and more horizontal elbow path emphasises the rear delt more than narrower grip pull up variants. Regular overhand pull up work supports rear delt development as a byproduct of back training.

Biceps and forearms

The biceps assist with elbow flexion but the pronated grip places them in a weaker mechanical position than the supinated chin up grip. This is why overhand pull ups are harder than chin ups for most lifters. The brachioradialis and forearm flexors handle more of the elbow flexion than the biceps brachii does.

Common mistakes

Five errors on overhand pull ups

The overhand pull up is the hardest pull up variant for most lifters so form failures are common as fatigue accumulates. These are the errors to spot on video before they become habit.

Kipping for momentum

Using a leg swing or hip kick to throw the body up moves the load to momentum rather than the back. Strict reps train the back. Kipping reps train conditioning. For hypertrophy and strength always start strict. CrossFit kipping pull ups have their place but they are not the same exercise.

Partial range of motion

Stopping the pull at the chin or dropping early on the descent halves the productive range. Every rep should clear the chest above the bar and return to a fully straight armed dead hang. Full range overhand pull ups are harder than chin or neutral grip versions. Train them anyway.

Going too wide

A grip more than 2 times shoulder width places the shoulder in a vulnerable abducted and externally rotated position. The reduced range of motion does not compensate for the increased shoulder stress. Stay at 1.5 times shoulder width for working sets. Save wider grips for occasional variation.

Shrugging at the bottom

If the shoulders rise toward the ears at the bottom of the rep the upper traps take over from the lats. Reset shoulder depression at the dead hang. Pull the shoulders down and back before bending the elbows. This is more difficult on overhand pull ups than chin ups because the grip itself does not encourage depression.

Hyperextending the lower back

Arching the lower back to wedge the chest up at the top compensates for weak lat strength. Keep the ribs stacked over the hips. The chest comes up by lat power, not by lumbar extension. This is especially common as fatigue accumulates in higher rep sets.

Programming

Progression from your first rep to weighted work

Overhand pull up programming depends entirely on your current capacity. Most lifters can do fewer overhand pull ups than chin ups or neutral grip pull ups. Adjust expectations accordingly and progress patiently.

Building to your first rep

If you cannot yet do one strict overhand pull up, train heavy wide grip lat pulldowns at 80 percent of bodyweight for 5 to 8 reps, paired with eccentric only pull ups (5 second descents, 3 to 5 reps per set). Most lifters can build to a first strict overhand pull up in 6 to 12 weeks. This takes longer than building to a first chin up.

Hypertrophy: 6 to 10 reps per set

The productive range for most trained lifters. 3 to 5 sets of 6 to 10 reps with 1 to 2 reps in reserve. If you can do more than 10 strict reps add weight via a dipping belt to bring you back into the productive range. Total weekly volume of 8 to 15 sets is appropriate for most intermediate lifters.

Strength: 3 to 5 reps weighted

For maximal strength load with a dipping belt to a point where 3 to 5 reps is genuinely difficult. 3 to 5 sets at this load. Most trained lifters can build to overhand pull ups with 15 to 25 percent of bodyweight added for 5 reps. This sits below weighted chin ups by 5 to 10 percent for most lifters.

Frequency

2 to 3 weekly overhand pull up sessions are tolerated by most lifters. Daily light overhand pull up work is possible if total weekly volume stays below approximately 25 working reps. Recovery is faster than for deadlifts because the spinal loading is zero.

Programme placement

Place overhand pull ups early in the session when the lats and biceps are fresh. Pair them with a horizontal pull such as a chest supported row to cover both pulling patterns within the same session. They also pair well with rear delt or biceps work as accessory finishers.

Overhand grip pull ups are one of three main pull up variations. For the supinated chin up grip, the neutral parallel handle alternative and pulldown progressions for lifters not yet at bodyweight strength, see our back exercises hub.

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For the supinated grip alternative, our Chin ups underhand grip guide covers the easier biceps friendly variant. Neutral grip pull ups are the most shoulder friendly variant. And the Close grip pull ups guide covers the narrower pronated variation.

Frequently asked

Overhand grip pull up questions

Are overhand pull ups harder than chin ups?
Yes for most lifters. The pronated grip places the biceps in a weaker mechanical position than the supinated chin up grip. Most people can do roughly 60 to 80 percent of their chin up max on overhand pull ups. They sit between chin ups (easiest) and weighted versions for difficulty.
How wide should my grip be?
Approximately 1.5 times shoulder width is the standard. Some lifters prefer slightly wider or narrower based on body proportions. Avoid grips beyond 2 times shoulder width because the shoulder position becomes vulnerable. The reduced range of motion at extreme widths does not compensate for the shoulder stress.
Will overhand pull ups give me a V taper?
Yes. The wide pronated grip emphasises the upper lats more than other pull up variants. Combined with deadlifts and rows they are one of the foundations of upper back width development. The V taper appearance comes from upper lat development and overhand pull ups train this directly.
I cannot do any pull ups. What is the fastest progression?
Combine three things. Heavy wide grip lat pulldowns at 80 percent of bodyweight for 5 to 8 reps for strength carryover. Eccentric only pull ups (5 second descents, 3 to 5 reps per set) for pull up specific strength. And dead hangs for grip and scapular control. 6 to 12 weeks of consistent work produces a first rep for most people.
Should I do more reps or add weight?
For pure back hypertrophy add weight once you can hit 10 to 12 strict reps. Weighted overhand pull ups at lower rep ranges (5 to 8) produce more growth than higher rep bodyweight sets. For strength weighted reps are the direct path. For general fitness higher rep bodyweight sets are also productive.
Why do my shoulders hurt during pull ups?
Most common cause is failing to set scapular depression before the pull. The shoulders rise toward the ears, which compresses the joint. Reset the active hang before every rep. Second most common cause is excessive grip width, which forces the shoulder into a vulnerable position. Stay at 1.5 times shoulder width.
How often can I do pull ups?
Two to three weekly sessions for hypertrophy and strength. Daily light pull up work is tolerated provided weekly volume stays below approximately 25 working reps. Schoenfeld and colleagues have shown 10 plus weekly sets per muscle group as productive for growth.